Posted by Tommy Harkenrider on
- August 16, 2014 at 1:57 pm #1095
I wasn’t 100% certain about the Embi bridge having never used one before, so, I bought two, on with metal saddles and one with nylon. I have on other guitars with tune-o-matic bridges swapped out saddles on the high two or three strings from metal to black Graphtech stuff to mellow things out. We could do sort of the same for you and put metal back in the two or three low strings to give them a little more zing. I will bring the parts when I come down the week after next and we’ll do a little surgery!August 27, 2014 at 10:12 am #1135
Grez, How is your RC Allen project coming along? Looking forward hearing about/seeing the progress.August 27, 2014 at 10:13 am #1136
Tommy you still haven’t put up the clips of your Grez guitar. Slacker! Granted I have heard it, but some of these people on the forum might not have witnesses the awesomeness of that guitar.August 27, 2014 at 4:27 pm #1138
The RC is going well. I will post a pic in the RC thread. I’ve also been videoing some of the process and will post that when the guitar is done.September 7, 2014 at 11:45 am #1162
I’m kinda curious what guitar Bill Jennings is holding on the album cover. I don’t think I’ve seen one around. Anyone have info on this brand and model? Also, Spotify is pretty good if you can deal with occasional commercials. MikeSeptember 7, 2014 at 11:04 pm #1164
That’s a real good question. I think it was a Gretsch synchromatic, It had dynasonics and I believe a synchrosonic bridge. TONE!September 8, 2014 at 6:50 am #1165
Agree, definitely looks like a Gretsch to me. The F-hole shape, control positions, hump-block fret board inlays and headstock shape are all Gretsch. The body shaped and depth don’t seem exactly familiar, but I’m not an expert on the vintage models outside the most common ones.September 8, 2014 at 8:20 am #1166
I think you might have found your next guitar to build Barry.September 8, 2014 at 9:15 am #1171
It is a Gretsch Syncromatic. Not sure what the exact Number designation it has is (ex a Jet model can be a 6128, 6131, or 6129)
It is hard to tell exactly what it is because it has mixed up features on it, which happened to a lot of electric guitars by all companies. Especially years models were in transition to a new version. They just kind of used what parts were available to use up all of the old stock that had been previously made. So one may have got the neck of this, with a bridge of that, kind of thing. It is from the from the late 40’s or early 50’s given the age of Bill Jennings, and because it is a script logo. It is also a Syncromatic because both the Gretsch Logo and model name run horizontal on the peg head. The Electromatics, the model name Electromatic always ran vertical. The confusing part for me is it has the F-Holes and electronics found on some of the Electromatics at the time. However it has the bridge base with the kind of scroll design on the upper bout side (opposite the volume and tone controls), and has hump block inlays which are features of the Syncromatic 200’s, but those typically had Cat’s Eye sound holes and not the f-style sound holes. So I really can’t say for sure what model or year that guitar is other than it is a Syncromatic. I will have to get my buddy to ask George Gruhn next time he sees him. I hope the little amount of information I had was some sort of help. Though I imagine it did not help very much.September 8, 2014 at 1:22 pm #1173
Thanks guys. The reason I asked is because with fan base is right here I figured someone might have read up on it from somewhere. Yes now I see it’s a Synchromatic. What really threw at first me was the tailpiece, wasn’t sure about the bridge, and I’m not able to see a head stock logo from my computer screen. I don’t have the actual album cover to look at. I’m really loving the tone on this entire Bill Jennings collection. Great tone (and fantastic playing) regardless of whether it’s a jump blues style tune or a jazz tune. I guess at one time DeArmond made the Dynasonic pickups? They must be well regarded. There’s a single well used pickup on ebay for $250. MikeSeptember 8, 2014 at 2:22 pm #1174
In searching to try and find out exactly what that guitar is I found this. So it is good to know we were all right in that it was a Gretsch, and a Syncromatic. But which one? A transition model? A one off custom piece? Ah the mystery.
To your question about the pickups, DeArmond did make the Dynasonic pickups. They are very cool pickups. Nothing sounds quite like them. I have found though, IMO, that they really need to be in a guitar that is either Hollow or Chambered to sound their best. Something I read in a book about Gretsch guitars a couple of years ago, while researching up on them, was on the Duo Jets construction. The vintage Dup Jets, that are said to be chambered by people, were not chambered in the traditional since that guitars that we think of. Gretsch while trying to mimic the carved top of the Gibson Les Paul decided to take a solid body guitar, then to make the carved top portion he made a laminated top like he would for his archtop guitars and then glued it on top of the solid body guitar. So where the arch is formed in the laminated top is hollow space from the 2 pieces being put together. The Duo Jets being made after the brand came back is made like the traditional chambered bodies of now. Supposedly that is why they sound different from the originals. Just thought that was a cool piece of trivia I came across I thought people might find interesting.September 8, 2014 at 3:37 pm #1175
Great find! And good info on the Dynasonics. Wonder if Gretsch can still turn out one of them “Miracle Necks” lol. I’ll bet it’s a take off on the mid 50s Gibson ES-350T where they shortened the scale and reduced the nut thickness to make the neck faster. I’ve been admiring this one for a long time.
http://www.archtop.com/ac_56es350t_414.htmlSeptember 8, 2014 at 4:05 pm #1176
I will post the album cover pic on The Gretsch Pages and see what the experts there have to say. I’m also curious if the top is a laminated maple top or spruce. A Synchromatic would normally be spruce I think.September 8, 2014 at 4:16 pm #1177
Yes, I’ll bet they know something about this guitar. Tommy may be right. This may be your next build. I just located this but don’t even want to inquire about the price. He also has an original Charlie Christian ES from the 1930s for sale on his site. All this detective work in kinda fun.
This guy has a one stop shop for gear porn.
September 8, 2014 at 4:26 pm #1179
- This reply was modified 4 years, 2 months ago by Mikemc.
Good looking guitar. It has F-holes and a maple top. Maybe they only put spruce on the Cat-eye versions. And doesn’t the body depth look greater on this guitar than the one from the album cover?
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